Round ‘em up

With all the excitement surrounding the launch of Prosper there has been a rush of blog writing about Zopa (and Prosper) - here are some edited highlights!

Getting in before the Prosper launch is Dennis Howlett, who describes Zopa, under the title Return of the Friendly society, as a “service that straddles credit unions and mainstream banking” and is “exquisite in its execution.” We’ve often been compared to credit unions, and in some ways we see ourselves as a credit union for the 21st century. This is the central topic of a long post by Scott Patterson who argues that Zopa is still a middleman, and that the P2P model is not for everyone, but that the existence of Zopa is a wake up call to Credit Unions - but the unanswered question is who will execute their advantages?

Ho John Lee has written largely about Prosper, but talks about the potential for sites like Zopa and Prosper to extend into microfinance (in the Grameen Bank model), or into start up financing. Niki Scevak agrees with the microfinance angle and talks about P2P lending and micro finance as being “one the of best ways…of solving world poverty.”

These are interesting possibilities that we’re considering hard.

Umair Haqur also makes an interesting suggestion on his Bubble Generation blog - that there is a huge amount of value to be captured by understanding the unsecured lending market in India and China, and that Zopa (or Prosper) might be able to get access to that. I couldn’t possibly comment. :-)

Finally, for now - Johnnie Moore has written about Prosper, and highlights their group model as an interesting development of the Zopa proposition. James and I recorded a podcast with Johnnie last Friday - as soon as it’s up, I’ll link to that as well. (Advance warning - it was recorded in a local coffee shop, so it’ll be ‘atmospheric’)

Feel free to link to other blogs in the comments - always interesting to see what’s being written about us.

UPDATE: The podcast is online - thanks Johnnie and James for coming to see us. Hope you enjoy listening to the chat!

UPDATE: Crikey, as of 13:30 GMT the podcast has made it onto the front page of memeorandum which is very exciting. There’s a lot of online discussion about Prosper which is probably contributing, but Zopa is discussed explicitly by Martin Geddes in terms of the messaging we use between members and to members - interesting stuff which I totally agree with. Also, Chad over at Tech2Point0 likes our attitude! :-)

Hey Prosper - you out there? Want to respond?


6 comments

Trey Reeme

Posted on February 14th, 2006 at 3:42 am

It’s great to see you giving mention to Scott Patterson’s post as the P2P lending model has recently gained a lot of attention in the few credit union industry blogs out there. There have been a lot of people in the US following Zopa (including me since August on the Open Source CU blog), wondering if and when P2P lending would make its way here.

Your approach is indeed a wake-up call to the US credit union industry - and to financial service providers as a whole. And kudos to you for having the conversation here on your blog with your critics, your customers, and the curious.

J Mac

Posted on February 14th, 2006 at 5:14 am

Hey you guys better get over here and make a name for your self or something CNBC just had the prosper dude on and he battled some hard hitting questions. It was a really good interview I’d say and I’d like to hear your take on the very same questions.

Dave

Posted on February 14th, 2006 at 12:02 pm

@ Trey - Yes, we’ve been following all that quite closely. We believe that Zopa is a fundamentally better model than Credit Unions that can offer better rates to our members than a CU can. A central crux of this is the fact that Zopa has no cost of capital (we have no deposits or loans on our balance sheet) - unlike any other financial institution, and so has a structually lower cost base. It’s a good discussion to have though - and this is a good place to have it!

@J Mac - Any idea where we can get a copy of the interview? (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer sort of thing) If you tell me the questions - I’ll see what I can to answer them!

J Mac

Posted on February 14th, 2006 at 7:34 pm

Um, sorry I can’t find it as of now. I do remember it took place from 3-4 EST PM on 2/13/06 CNBC. One of the biggest questions was that banks apparently (according to the woman they had on countering the prosper/eloan guy) do not charge as much for these types of loans as prosper or you guys do (1%). She said the banks she talked to only would charge somewhere around 50 points (I guess that’s 1/2 %?) and that apparently these loans you both are offering in your marketplace are drastically more expensive than what you could get at a bank. His counter was that banks have many ‘hidden’ costs and what the woman said simply wasn’t true, he said that what banks really charge is the amount between what they pay out to bank members and the amount they charge towards interest-bearing loans; which is common sense. You can probably google and try to find the interview or contact cnbc yourselfs. Goodluck. My site’s launching soon which’ll be a Hub for p2p information/activity/message boards. Peace.

shenzhen369

Posted on February 19th, 2006 at 3:45 pm

It’s really great to see such a fantastic innovation like this. My best wishes for you the brillant guys.And i am also a little bit concerned about the future of zopa. Frankly few Britain website make big names worldwide,especially when you are going to face competitions from prosper.com which enjoys a group of best team as described by Businessweek.com.So my suggestion is that you will have to pace up pace up especially in the US land.May god bless you. and finally but most importantly is that better leave the bid infromation promt to the homepage so that visitors could learn it vividly and also have more passion for a try. I see the prosper.com doing a good job. And my best wishes also to oceantomo.com which is also a good copy of ebay on IP. very nice innovations from ebay.

shenzhen369

Posted on February 19th, 2006 at 3:49 pm

let ting the visitors see the bid information before registerred could be a great try. Really hope to see the change will come as soon as possible.
——- a fan of zopa.


Leave a comment

  (will not be published)


« Flipping the funnel

Site upgrade! »